{"id":1460,"date":"2022-10-14T15:16:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-14T21:16:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/?p=1460"},"modified":"2022-10-13T15:29:48","modified_gmt":"2022-10-13T21:29:48","slug":"watch-what-they-do","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/2022\/10\/14\/watch-what-they-do\/","title":{"rendered":"Watch what they do"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>What we as users get told is &#8220;report your issues, upvote them as this influences priorities&#8221;<br>So many do ; or did. I&#8217;ve got far too many people telling me <em>I just gave up reporting them as they never get fixed<\/em>. From names that if I listed them would surprise people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Since I still use Xojo for client projects I report bugs and tell my clients to advocate for them getting fixed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Great !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So report them upvote them and &#8230; they dont get put on a milestone to get fixed ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are several open bugs with more upvotes than open reports that are assigned to milestones<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"308\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.11.35-PM.png?resize=525%2C308&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1461\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.11.35-PM.png?resize=1024%2C600&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.11.35-PM.png?resize=300%2C176&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.11.35-PM.png?resize=768%2C450&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.11.35-PM.png?resize=1536%2C900&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.11.35-PM.png?w=1654&amp;ssl=1 1654w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"312\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.12.17-PM.png?resize=525%2C312&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1462\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.12.17-PM.png?resize=1024%2C608&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.12.17-PM.png?resize=300%2C178&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.12.17-PM.png?resize=768%2C456&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.12.17-PM.png?resize=1536%2C912&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Screen-Shot-2022-10-13-at-3.12.17-PM.png?w=1638&amp;ssl=1 1638w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The top 3 open bugs have higher popularity than the items assigned to 2022r4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The top 6 open bugs are at least the same popularity as the top two items assigned to 2022r4<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Trust me I know the &#8220;dodge&#8221; that gets rolled out <em>Its not the only criteria we use<\/em>. Sure but what criteria DO get used ? How else do you judge how many people might be affected if not by upvotes ? The IDE doesn&#8217;t report back how many people use XYZ in their code so how else can you judge the impact ? The number of duplicate reports ? Even Issues isn&#8217;t any better at detecting those than any prior system was.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Personally I&#8217;d like a less &#8220;hand wavy ignore the man behind the curtain&#8221; way of knowing how to influence priorities. Make upvotes ACTUALLY count for what gets put into a milestone. Clear prioritization criteria would be VERY welcome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As I&#8217;ve often been told &#8220;Watch what they do. Not what they say.&#8221; <br>We&#8217;re told to report upvote etc<br>Yet that isn&#8217;t what we see getting addressed<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I can see why people just give up<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What we as users get told is &#8220;report your issues, upvote them as this influences priorities&#8221;So many do ; or did. I&#8217;ve got far too many people telling me I just gave up reporting them as they never get fixed. From names that if I listed them would surprise people. Since I still use Xojo &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/2022\/10\/14\/watch-what-they-do\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Watch what they do&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1460","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1460","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1460"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1460\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1466,"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1460\/revisions\/1466"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1460"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1460"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.great-white-software.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1460"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}